On this episode of Catholic Forum, after news from The Dialog, and a cut from the Catholic Treasures CD, we will talk with Father John Grasing, pastor of Sacred Heart Parish in Chestertown, Maryland and director of the Office for Deacons for the Diocese of Wilmington. We will also talk with two of the 15 men who will be ordained to the permanent diaconate on August 7, 2021, Richard Kosior from Holy Cross Parish in Dover, Delaware and Matt Boyer, from St. Ann's Parish in Wilmington.